Attacking in Prussian plains, no rivers or anything. Originally posted by AsuraTheDrunk:If your feudal army is facing a same sized tribal army and losing, something is seriously wrong with either your terrain choice or commanders.ДЄverage commanders, 9-12 stats. They just pelt my armies with arrows, they don't need to outnumber me. Still though, I lose every battle to tribals. I mean it was stable, my brother has never liked me and always wanted to be the king of Poland and doesn't like it when I change the succession laws but screw him! The religious revolts only started after I Fedualised, and because I was weak and losing everything to these damned religious в™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґ I kept dying off.

You should hold off on feudalising until the realm is stable otherwise you're just asking for revolts and years and years of discontent. Onto your actual situation though, sounds like you feudalised/reformed before you were ready. The tribal army would have to massively outnumber the feudal to stop the fight while still in skirmish. Generally speaking when facing a tribal army(mostly light infantry) the battle will be lost as soon as the heavy infantry get into melee. Originally posted by AsuraTheDrunk:Heavy Infantry and better than light infantry in melee by a huge margin, but they are weaker in skirmish phase. Both tend to be massive problems because my feudal armies are complete GARBAGE, I don't understand why they suck so much. With that, I have to fight the religious revolts and the vassal revolts. The problem with this is that I'm still developing the lands and most of vassals are either Tribal or hate me, so I have little to no levies at times after I'm done screwing myself over one revolt, then the next. I've only ever got one of my personal counties to convert and I'm pretty sure that was just random change. Since I reformed only a select few counties have been converted with most of them not converting after decades of slapping a 20~ skill prist of them. I'd hope that, since I spent all this time trying to feudalise, and I'm having all these new troops and better technology and a massive expense paid to keep them all running, that they'd be actually something useful. Usually what happens is they just sit there and get pelted to death, it's в™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґв™Ґ I'm telling you. I feel like, if they just ran into the attack, they wouldn't be getting screwed over. I've noticed in the battle my armies spend most of the time just shooting each other with arrows. My question is are heavy troops worth while? Usually what happens is I'm in an even battle in numbers, my generals are better/the enemy's dont have ANY general, and yet I still lose. Recently I've created the kingdom of Prussia and I've Feudalised, a few of my more competent vassals have come up with me but the rest are still Tribal. Really all this is light vs heavy troops, although I'd ASSUME heavy troops would always be better it really doesn't matter.

Tribal vs feudal ck2